This conversation occurred during the Fall of 2020. It is revelatory for how difficult it was for this victim of spousal abuse to be heard or taken seriously by this President.
Pastor Gruijicić agreed that Mr. Quispe had abused Anita during the conversation, yet he questioned why Anita tried to seek help and precisely why she had sought governmental help. In a telling line of the dialogue, he said he would hypothetically ask his daughter to “never seek justice but to seek the grace of forgiveness instead.”
Warning: The conversation may be triggering to survivors of rape and sexual/psychological abuse.